Images by Wendy Bowman
|WS Tell me about how you got your start.
SM I did a manifesto when I was a senior at Brown. It was called Defunct. There was only one issue. One of the things that was in the manifesto was a review of one of Hal Foster’s books published by Bay Press. I approached a number of people about this manifesto. One of them was Jeff Koons, who I asked to do a contribution to it. We had a rapport, and I obviously needed a job when I came to New York, so I asked him if he could make up a job for me. When I first got to New York, I was also in the Whitney Independent Study Program. You have to imagine this; it’s completely surreal. I took a bus to New York for the Whitney Program, and then I had a part time job at Jeff Koons’s apartment [before he ever had a studio] helping him with the Made In Heaven show. So ideologically and politically it had very interesting contradictions and the full spectrum of activity.
|Jeff had just done the Banality show, which caught my interest as a student even though I wasn’t in New York. I thought this was really interesting—an artist functioning like a producer. So I proposed for him to make a job for me. I ended up helping edit all of the Made In Heaven images with him. Then I would go from there down to the Whitney Program and listen to Mary Kelly talking about Lacan, and it was a crazy juxtaposition. I cannot even begin to describe how it covered the entire range of activity—intellectual texts and discourse to “pornography”. The program was very politically correct. I rode my bike literally between these two positions and it never bothered Jeff at all, but it pissed everybody else off. There was a lot of friction because of my behavior, but I enjoyed it because of that.|
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